It Takes a Village | Growing Up With American Missionary Parents in The Philippines feat. Becca
In this episode of Culture In Between, Becca describes her unique upbringing in a small village in the Philippines while her parents were American missionaries there. Becca tells us many stories about growing up in the country from birth to age 19, including her love of Filipino foods and the mishaps she found herself in due to not understanding American culture during her few brief stints going to school in the U.S.
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- 00:00-Intro
- 00:44-Where are your parents from and where did you live in the Philippines?
- 01:40-What was the purpose behind the missions?
- 02:20-How many years did you live in the Philippines?
- 02:40-Did you go to school with the locals?
- 04:00-How were you treated?
- 05:00-Tell us what it was like coming back to the U.S.
- 06:36-Did you move around the Philippines?
- 07:37-Did you pick up the language?
- 09:00-Walk us through your school experience
- 10:44-What brought you back to the U.S.?
- 15:24-Do you feel like you belong to any culture?
- 16:45-What was it like moving from a developing country to a first-world country?
- 18:37-How has your upbringing impacted how you raise your children?
- 21:25-What do you miss the most about living in the Philippines?
- 22:58-What are some of your favorite Filipino foods?
- 23:43-Balut
- 26:48-What did you love the most about living in the Philippines?
- 29:00-Stereotype Mythbusters
- 35:10-Wrapping up
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0:12 β 0:17 Hello and welcome to Culture In Between, a podcast all about exploring the unique experiences 0:17 β 0:21 of people who grew up in a culture outside of their parents' culture. We're your hosts, Alyssa 0:21 β 0:26 and Brianna, and in today's episode we have Becca, who grew up in the Philippines with 0:26 β 0:30 American missionary parents. Welcome to the show, Becca. It's great to have you. Thank 0:30 β 0:35 you. I'm so excited. It's going to be fun. Thank you. Yes, we are very excited to talk to you 0:35 β 0:40 because this is definitely different from... pretty much all of the guests that we have 0:40 β 0:47 planned for the podcast, at least for this season. So can we start by having you tell us where 0:47 β 0:52 exactly in the US your parents are from and then where you all lived in the Philippines? 0:53 β 0:59 Okay, well, my dad, he was born in a tiny, tiny town in Tennessee, like his parents owned a 0:59 β 1:05 farm. His dad wasn't a good farmer, but he, so he worked at like a local factory. and he's 1:05 β 1:09 the only one who went to college in his family and he had a passion for mission, so he got 1:10 β 1:15 a master's in theology and then he became a pastor in Montana and met my mom, it was just 1:15 β 1:22 really random. My mom was a speech therapist. She grew up all over. My grandpa was a pastor, 1:22 β 1:28 but she grew up mostly in the West Coast, like Seattle area. And then I grew up in the Philippines 1:28 β 1:33 in the Northern Island of Lausanne. We moved a lot, my parents were like Mrs. and Mr. Flexible 1:34 β 1:38 of the missionaries, so they just kind of went where they were told, but we were always in 1:38 β 1:41 that one area which is like the northern, it's a big island. And can you tell us a little 1:41 β 1:46 bit about like the missionaries, like what maybe organization they were with or like, yeah, 1:46 β 1:52 what was their purpose going to the Philippines? They were with the Southern Baptist, they have 1:52 β 1:58 very strong belief that Jesus is a Savior and they wanted to share Jesus with others. And 1:58 β 2:03 they weren't there to change culture, they were there to just teach Bible. That was their goal. 2:03 β 2:11 Yeah, just assimilate with them. Yeah, we weren't expected. My parents had the goal of living 2:11 β 2:17 like the people as much as possible and just sharing Jesus with them that way. That's awesome. 2:17 β 2:24 Well, that's really fascinating. So, can you tell us how many years did you live in the 2:24 β 2:28 Philippines? So I was born there and when I was 19, I went to college. So I lived there 2:28 β 2:33 pretty much that whole time, except when we'd come to the states for what we called state-side 2:33 β 2:39 assignments. So a total of 16 out of 19 years of my formative years, I lived in the Philippines. 2:39 β 2:45 And did you go to school with other Filipino kids or did you go to international schools? 2:45 β 2:50 What was your school experience like? So I had a very mixed experience. I went to like... 2:51 β 2:55 Like in preschool, I went to like a little local church and then we would come back to the states 2:55 β 2:59 for like a year here and there. So like first grade, sixth grade, half of 10th grade, I went 2:59 β 3:04 to public school in the states. And then my parents did put me in a private like school 3:04 β 3:10 in the Philippines, but it was terrible. It just did not work. I was like a freak. I don't 3:10 β 3:14 know how else to word it. Like they had not seen white people ever. And literally they 3:14 β 3:18 would all, the kids would touch me and would not like listen to the teacher. And like, I 3:18 β 3:24 couldn't move. It was like a very, it was just horrible. So then my mom started homeschooling 3:24 β 3:28 us. Plus when they teach English, like whatever the grammar rules are for their language, they 3:28 β 3:33 teach it, they use it for English. That's not the right grammar. So it's just not, it didn't 3:33 β 3:38 work. So my mom ended up homeschooling us. And then in high school, I went to a boarding school 3:38 β 3:42 for, which was an international school. You've kind of been in a lot of different experiences. 3:42 β 3:48 It sounds like you have siblings. Can you maybe list how many siblings you have? And were they 3:48 β 3:52 also born in the Philippines or were some born in the States? So my brother was born in Texas. 3:52 β 3:56 He was a year old when he went to the Philippines and my sister was also born in the Philippines 3:56 β 4:01 and I'm in the middle. So there's three of us. Gotcha. And so that was really interesting 4:01 β 4:06 that you talked about how you kind of felt like a freak in school because that was going to 4:06 β 4:12 be like my next question is just... How were you and I guess your family as well received 4:12 β 4:17 in the Philippines? Like, I mean, were people used to seeing American missionaries or was 4:17 β 4:23 it still kind of a novelty? Like, how were you treated, I guess, as people who obviously weren't 4:23 β 4:28 Filipino but entrenched in the culture like that? We were definitely interesting. And also 4:28 β 4:34 the Philippines, it was during World War II when the Japanese took over, the United States 4:34 β 4:39 went back and freed them basically. And so they have a deep respect for Americans. Like Americans 4:39 β 4:44 are considered like good to them. Like they freed us. They were a colony. So, you know, 4:44 β 4:48 that's a whole other thing. Yeah. But like they have, they just love Americans in general. 4:48 β 4:52 They think we have a lot of money. So then poor people are like, Hey, give us money all the 4:52 β 4:56 time, which we want to help people, but you can only do what you have the ability to do, 4:56 β 5:03 of course. So that makes it difficult. Um, yeah. So, so you mentioned that you came back to 5:03 β 5:09 the U S here and there during your time in the Philippines. So can you tell us what that experience 5:09 β 5:15 was like coming back to the US after living in the Philippines for a time and kind of going 5:15 β 5:20 back and forth like that? When you were in the US, did you have like reverse culture shock? 5:20 β 5:26 Were you having to get used to the culture here? What was that like? Oh, it was definitely like 5:26 β 5:31 a culture shock. I remember walking to Walmart and being like, holy cow, this is like the 5:31 β 5:36 biggest story I've ever seen. Like, we had a market, you know, an open market with like... 5:36 β 5:41 fish swimming, like essentially from the local like beach. Like that's what I grew up with. 5:41 β 5:47 And that was just, it was a lot. It was very awkward because people expect you because you, 5:47 β 5:52 I spoke English like my parents. So I had an American accent and I look like an American 5:52 β 5:58 cause I am American, but inside I don't feel like culturally like they're just little things 5:58 β 6:01 that I do that are not American, but it's hard to explain because I don't realize I'm doing 6:01 β 6:08 it cause they're subconscious. My grandma was German and she was very strict. So mom would 6:08 β 6:13 have us for six months before we weren't allowed to eat with our hands. We had to use silverware. 6:13 β 6:17 It sounds like silly stuff, but she would make us train us because otherwise my grandma would 6:17 β 6:22 be like, what are you teaching your kids over there? But normally when parents are chilled, 6:22 β 6:28 they're like, yeah, let's do it like the people. It's all good. Yeah. So your relatives, they 6:28 β 6:35 live in the States, so they probably getting that you picked up in the Philippines. So that's 6:35 β 6:39 really interesting. You told us where you lived, but like you tell us a little bit about, did 6:39 β 6:44 you move around within the Philippines? We did move around. We always lived not in the city. 6:44 β 6:49 We always lived what we call in the barangay, like in the very rural areas. We didn't have 6:49 β 6:54 like a phone line till like 1996. There was no phone line going through the town. Like 6:55 β 7:01 my parents went to the Philippines in say 1984, I believe is when they went. they decided to 7:01 β 7:05 move into a house in a Filipino. Like they just rented a room in a house and they had to learn 7:05 β 7:10 how to cook on a wood stove. It was like learned by fire, literally, because there was no telephone, 7:10 β 7:15 there was no way to contact anyone. My mom said it was the hardest thing she ever did, but 7:15 β 7:21 they were the only missionaries brave enough to do it in our mission. So that's how my parents 7:21 β 7:26 raised us. So we had a nice house compared to the locals, but we had a very basic furniture 7:26 β 7:31 and like we just kind of assimilated that way. That's awesome. That's such a unique experience. 7:31 β 7:35 Like, I feel like that's so cool that they really wanted to engulf themselves and their children 7:36 β 7:41 in the culture. Did you end up picking up the language Tagalog, right? Is that how? Yes. 7:42 β 7:48 I spoke it. I still speak it fluently. I'm a little rusty. But once I get like 30 minutes 7:48 β 7:53 into a conversation, I'm good to go. When I was little, we lived in a different place and 7:53 β 7:59 I lived, I spoke another language called Ilocano. So I was like, trilingual. But when we moved 7:59 β 8:06 to another place, I lost it because kids gain and lose things easily. And that also like 8:07 β 8:11 put me behind, I guess, with schooling because I couldn't, when we came to the States in first 8:11 β 8:18 grade, I was, my English wasn't that good. Oh, wow. That's funny. That's crazy. So do they 8:18 β 8:22 have multiple like different dialects and stuff throughout the thing? They have like over a 8:22 β 8:25 thousand. Wow, really? I did not know that. Cause Tagalog is the only one I'm familiar 8:25 β 8:29 with. I have a best friend who's Filipino, so I know of that one, but I guess that's probably 8:29 β 8:33 the main language. That is the national language. Yep. Okay. But then there's little pockets. 8:33 β 8:37 Okay. Yeah. I was not aware of that. And variations of each language. There's all kinds of stuff. 8:38 β 8:41 I don't even know all of them for sure. But Tagalog was almost probably maybe the first 8:41 β 8:45 language you learned. I don't know, I guess you spoke it probably as good as you did English 8:45 β 8:50 or maybe even. I think it just happened simultaneously. Yeah. Like my parents spoke to us in English, 8:50 β 8:56 but then everybody else spoke to us in Tagalog. When I was born, I think they spoke Ilocano 8:56 β 9:02 there. But yeah, it was just all simultaneous at the same time. Okay. Can you tell us, like 9:02 β 9:07 kind of walk us through... your elementary school experience, middle school experience, high 9:07 β 9:11 school experience. I know you were like homeschooled for part of that, but can you kind of tell 9:11 β 9:18 us what it was like growing up there as school age, like in your school experience and how 9:18 β 9:24 it differs from like a typical American school experience? Well my curriculum, our curriculum 9:24 β 9:29 came from the States. So as far as like academics, I feel like we probably had a very similar 9:29 β 9:33 experience to a lot of homeschooled kids in the US because they use the same curriculum. 9:33 β 9:39 I was actually a really good kid, not to brag, but mom would wake me up at like seven. She 9:39 β 9:42 would give me like my assignments and I would just do them. And then when I got done, I would 9:42 β 9:47 go and play with the, you know, the local, the local kids that I would play with. My brother 9:47 β 9:53 and sister were another story, but, but that's how I did homeschooling. And then public schools 9:53 β 9:58 in the U S is just like, it would be here. High school was a little rough. It was like a really 9:58 β 10:03 ghetto school. It was a shock to the system. There was like a daycare for the students in 10:03 β 10:09 the school. I was like, I don't know where I've come from. To come from a very conservative, 10:09 β 10:14 rural area. It was a little shocking. So it sounds like, okay, so you grew up kind of in 10:14 β 10:19 a more rural... Like most of the places, even though you traveled around quite a bit, you 10:19 β 10:25 grew up mostly in rural areas. And did your siblings assimilate as much as... You did, 10:25 β 10:29 you think? Or did they? Or I don't know, I guess maybe you can't speak for them, but how did 10:29 β 10:33 you observe them? Oh, we were all the same, I feel like. We all have different personalities 10:33 β 10:37 in how we deal with things. My sister has a learning disability, so I feel like her language 10:37 β 10:45 skills weren't as good as mine. That's about it. Cool, cool. Yeah. So how was it coming 10:45 β 10:53 back to the US in a more permanent fashion after growing up in the Philippines? Was there ever 10:53 β 10:59 any... talk of maybe staying in the Philippines or moving elsewhere. How did you decide to 10:59 β 11:05 move back to the US and to stay here permanently? And just what was that like? I think it was 11:05 β 11:11 always the expectation. I was born in the Philippines, but in the Philippines, the law is that if 11:11 β 11:15 your parents are American, you're automatically American. So I didn't have the citizenship 11:15 β 11:19 to work in the Philippines legally. So I guess my thought was always that that's how we were 11:19 β 11:25 raised. There's not really options there. But when I did come to the US. It was a big adjustment 11:25 β 11:30 because I did feel inside very different than people around me. And like, I remember kids 11:30 β 11:34 would be talking and telling their stories. And my stories would always start with in the 11:34 β 11:40 Philippines. And because I literally have nowhere else to talk about and I'm a talker, so I had 11:40 β 11:44 to join in the conversation. And after a while, people got annoyed with me because they felt 11:44 β 11:48 like I was trying to show off that I was different. I wasn't trying to show off. That's just literally 11:49 β 11:54 all I had to go by. But one experience that I had that really made a big difference defining 11:54 β 12:00 in my life is when I was in high school, I went to the States in sixth grade and it was really 12:00 β 12:05 hard. I was bullied a lot. I was just very different. My parents didn't really dress me cool. I didn't 12:05 β 12:11 really know it was cool. It was just bad. And then we left and I finally at the end of that 12:11 β 12:15 year, I made friends and then we left again. So then in 10th grade, we were only going to 12:15 β 12:19 be in the States for six months. And so I vowed not to make a single friend because I didn't 12:19 β 12:26 want to deal with the hurt of moving again and losing that friend. So during that year I was 12:26 β 12:31 kind of depressed because I'm an extrovert, did not work out for me. And so when I went 12:31 β 12:34 back to the Philippines, I went to my boarding school and there I had lots of friends. So 12:34 β 12:39 I remember in college, I vowed that I would never let myself do that again. And I kind 12:39 β 12:44 of vowed that like, if someone invites me, I'm gonna go because You just don't know unless 12:44 β 12:48 you experience it, which sounds really dangerous. I may have not made all the best decisions 12:48 β 12:54 in college, but I felt like unless you go and put yourself out there when you're alone, you're 12:54 β 12:58 not gonna make friends. You're not gonna make the best of the situation if nothing else learned 12:58 β 13:02 from those people and that experience that you had. So I'm very passionate about doing that 13:03 β 13:07 and living fully that way. That makes sense. That could be, I can see how that'd be difficult. 13:08 β 13:11 And like, I mean, even... I'm sure just like culturally, there are probably things that 13:11 β 13:15 like music and things. I don't know how much you were keeping up with that kind of stuff. 13:15 β 13:18 Oh, it's not. Yeah, you know, things that would have maybe been popular in the States, like 13:18 β 13:22 when you come over, because I think you said you come over every, was it every four years 13:22 β 13:27 or so you come over for? So it was four and then in between there was three. Yeah, like 13:27 β 13:31 every, you know, Britney Spears, whoever I'm trying to think, you know, is popular at the 13:31 β 13:35 time. Like, I don't know if you are you listening to all the music. So like if kids are saying 13:35 β 13:38 whatever slang or whatever is cool at the time, like. you're probably not up to date on that. 13:38 β 13:43 So that probably was hard too, right? Cause I feel that now is like a person without children 13:43 β 13:49 and trying to keep track of what the cool, what the words are now. So I'm just kind of relating 13:49 β 13:53 it to that. So yeah. Oh, for sure. It was really hard to connect with people when you don't, 13:54 β 13:57 like people are in, cause you're not really interested in what people are interested in. 13:57 β 14:04 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Do you have any like specific stories of times when like someone would make 14:05 β 14:09 some sort of cultural reference? that only like Americans would understand and you just like 14:09 β 14:13 didn't get it? Oh, I can't think of anything. I know it happened all the time. It's probably 14:13 β 14:17 because I really didn't know what was going on. Do you even remember what they were saying? 14:17 β 14:23 It was too painful. You just walked it out. I was like, I don't know. This is awkward kid 14:23 β 14:30 in the corner over here trying to make the best of the situation. I mean, there are experiences 14:30 β 14:33 like this one girl I met in college. I'm like, oh, she seems like a nice Christian girl. You 14:33 β 14:37 know, I came from a conservative environment. So she's like, come to a birthday party with 14:37 β 14:40 me. I'm like, cool. So we start driving there and I'm like, so what are we gonna do, play 14:40 β 14:45 board games or something? She laughed so hard. There was definitely like drugs and all kinds 14:45 β 14:52 of stuff at this party. And I was like, I stood on the wall. Like I was like, not what I expected, 14:52 β 14:57 but I was all in, you know, I had this motto that I was gonna enjoy life, whatever. And 14:57 β 15:00 she knew I was uncomfortable. So she left within like half an hour. We didn't really hang out 15:01 β 15:07 after that, but it's all good. Yeah. You put yourself out there. I sure did. Yeah. All the 15:07 β 15:11 way. I was not ready for it at that time. Oh my gosh. I must have been like, welcome to 15:11 β 15:22 America. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Oh my gosh. People are funny that way. Wow. Yeah. So I guess taking 15:22 β 15:27 it into kind of the present, looking back on all those experiences and just how your life 15:27 β 15:29 has been kind of divided between these two countries. 15:40 β 15:43 Do you feel like you don't fully belong in any one culture? Because that must be a little 15:43 β 15:52 bit, And then I didn't grow up in this other place, And everyone, if you just hear me, you 15:52 β 15:53 think I'm American. 15:58 β 16:04 belong in any one culture and how do you kind of deal with that? All the time. I feel that 16:04 β 16:09 way. You know, I go back and forth. Like, I always find people that I connect with and 16:09 β 16:14 there's always people out there who genuinely enjoy that you're different. And there's always 16:14 β 16:18 people out there who kind of think you're showing off again. It happens in adulthood. It happened 16:18 β 16:23 more like, you know, in college days. But I just feel like I just find the people who are 16:23 β 16:28 okay with who I am and... That's how I operate, but sometimes I do feel kind of lonely. Like, 16:29 β 16:34 okay, I don't belong anywhere and this is kind of lonely. Yeah, because most of your formative 16:34 β 16:39 years were in the Philippines. So it's such a... Even though you've been living here for 16:39 β 16:42 a good little while now too, like it's, yeah, you know, that's still made up a lot of who 16:42 β 16:47 you were. And so, you know, Philippines is a third world country. What was that like and 16:47 β 16:52 like how has that shaped, I don't know, your appreciation of living in America in a first 16:52 β 16:58 world country? Oh, it's made a huge impact. We lived very remote, people were starving, 16:58 β 17:02 people had dirt floors, people shared a hole in the ground to use the bathroom, you know, 17:02 β 17:07 these were our neighbors, this is what I saw growing up. And it's hard, because you come 17:07 β 17:13 here and you're like, people are just kind of more superficial, but it's easy to judge people 17:13 β 17:16 too, you know, that's also like, you have to understand where they're coming from. So I 17:16 β 17:22 feel like, in the beginning of college, I was kind of like, it was hard, because. I don't 17:22 β 17:25 know, there'd be like a party and everyone would be like, I need to buy a new dress. I'm like, 17:25 β 17:29 y'all need to buy new dresses all the time? Like, I don't get it. Like, people are starving 17:29 β 17:33 in other countries, but like after a while you realize that it's okay also to enjoy the things 17:33 β 17:39 that you have to a certain extent, but also just know what's important. For sure. It probably 17:39 β 17:43 gives you a better appreciation. Cause I know like when Brianna and I go visit Jamaica and 17:43 β 17:47 see where my parents grew up and everything, it's always, it's always a bit of a shock. 17:47 β 17:50 And until like, I always come back to the States being like, wow, like I really appreciate. 17:54 β 18:01 and what I grew up in. So yeah, I'm sure that really has probably helped you and not get 18:01 β 18:11 so bogged down with maybe the consumerism I think it definitely makes me more content And 18:11 β 18:15 that kind of leads me into my next question 18:21 β 18:25 often would tell us like, oh, you don't need this and you don't need that and don't waste 18:25 β 18:31 this and don't waste that, which of course was is good. But I'm wondering if you do that to 18:31 β 18:33 your kids now. Like if you 18:37 β 18:40 thinking that when you're saying that I was like, oh snap. How has your upbringing impacted 18:40 β 18:44 how you raise your children? Growing up in the Philippines affected how you are raising your 18:44 β 18:51 kids now here in the US. Oh, definitely. So this is just a random story. But. during right 18:51 β 18:55 before Halloween, I took Rosalind to Disney on ice and I let her buy like they had in Kanto 18:55 β 19:00 theme. So I let her get a costume for that. And Halloween was like the next month and my 19:00 β 19:04 husband's from India. He's born and raised in India. So he also grew up in a, well, I guess 19:04 β 19:10 it's technically second world, but a poor country. And so she wanted a tiger costume and she'd 19:10 β 19:14 been talking about this tiger costume, but both of us just kind of were like, no, we already 19:14 β 19:22 bought you something like you use what you got. And she was so sad, but she kind of was like 19:23 β 19:27 okay with it. So she made up her own costume and then one of the kids made fun of her for 19:27 β 19:33 it on Halloween which kind of made me feel bad. But it's kind of, I also want her to learn 19:33 β 19:38 to be okay with what she has. So it's a struggle cause I want her to be able to choose things 19:38 β 19:44 that she likes. And we just live in such an affluent community. Like I live in the suburbs 19:44 β 19:51 and it's very affluent. But are there any other ways that you've kind of passed down some of 19:51 β 19:56 the Filipino culture that you were raised into your kids? Like in a different way, like maybe 19:56 β 20:05 just in terms of like foods or interests, that kind of thing? I think for me, just I have 20:05 β 20:09 a passion for being content with material things and just knowing what's important. So that's 20:09 β 20:13 something I really want to instill in my kids. I don't know if I'm... quite there, but we're 20:13 β 20:18 working on it with my four and six year olds, so I still got a little time. But I don't know, 20:18 β 20:21 I think that's pretty much it. I mean, I do cook Filipino food. My husband's Indian, I 20:21 β 20:29 cook Indian food. So I'm sure that hopefully they have a varied palette going up. And I'm 20:29 β 20:33 sure there's a lot of subtle things that I do, but when I get around Filipinos, they'll tell 20:33 β 20:38 me things that I do that I don't realize I'm doing that are very Filipino. Unless you're 20:38 β 20:43 Filipino, you wouldn't realize that. Making sure your kids eat, that's like a very like, 20:43 β 20:49 you know, they better eat. I'm sure your parents did that to you. Yeah. Very important. Yeah, 20:50 β 20:55 that's very true. Yes. That's funny. My husband does similar stuff too. Like, don't waste your 20:55 β 20:59 food. People are starving. Like you're so privileged and you don't like the food. Yeah. You're not 20:59 β 21:04 gonna eat this? Then too bad. Like that's kind of like, you know, getting another option. 21:05 β 21:10 Yeah. No, that's so true. I think that there's a certain universality amongst like immigrant. 21:11 β 21:17 parents with that, with the food and not wasting it. Yeah, it's a big thing, which I fully understand. 21:18 β 21:23 I get it. But yeah, I think that's pretty widespread amongst, no matter where your parents come 21:23 β 21:30 from. What do you miss the most from living in the Philippines? You know, Filipinos, they're 21:30 β 21:34 really great at just loving you for who you are. They're the most accepting culture. If 21:34 β 21:38 you go to a potluck, there'll be all these mixed kids. They just love everybody. Everybody's 21:38 β 21:43 welcome. When they move to a country, they just find the good in that culture. And that's one 21:44 β 21:47 thing my mom always taught me is like every culture has good and things that maybe aren't 21:47 β 21:51 so good. So take the good and run with it and the stuff that's not so good in your own culture, 21:51 β 21:56 like let it go and take on the stuff with the other culture. You don't have to be stuck in 21:56 β 22:01 one thing. Do what's good in both the cultures. And have you been back to the Philippines since 22:01 β 22:07 you moved to the U S? So when I first went to college, when I was 19, my parents were still 22:07 β 22:14 living in the Philippines. They live there from, that would have been 2005 until 2014. So what 22:14 β 22:20 is that? Nine years later, they retired. But when I first went, my dad came for like two 22:20 β 22:25 months with me, got my driver's license. Two days later, I drove him to the airport in Atlanta. 22:25 β 22:29 It was like the scariest thing I think I've ever done. You're driving in Atlanta, a scary 22:29 β 22:34 thing. That was fun, that was fun. Then I moved myself in my dorm like two days later. So dad 22:34 β 22:39 just kind of left me. Mom says that to this day, he was the craziest, scaredest person 22:40 β 22:44 in the world. Like he was so scared leaving me because it's a lot to leave your little 22:44 β 22:52 girl like that. Yeah. Okay, so now I wanna kind of transition into talking more about the culture 22:52 β 22:59 as a whole, Filipino culture. So I think a good place to start is always with food. What is 22:59 β 23:07 your favorite Filipino dishes? And after that, I wanna ask you about a specific. food that 23:07 β 23:12 I've heard about, but we'll start there. What are some of your favorite Filipino dishes? 23:13 β 23:18 Chicken adobo, which is like a soy sauce and vinegar based sauce. I love eggplant. They 23:18 β 23:21 make this omelet with eggplant. You like grill it and then you make like, you fry it with 23:21 β 23:26 an egg, it's so good. And you dip it in fish sauce. They also have like this calabasas, 23:27 β 23:31 basically they're pumpkin. I think they sell it here like that in certain international 23:31 β 23:37 stores, but. I just like all the veggies and stuff. All the fish fresh from the beach. Oh 23:37 β 23:46 my word. A fisherman caught this morning. Nice. Okay. So we've heard about the infamous balut. 23:46 β 23:54 Oh yeah. Balut. Yeah. Can you tell our listeners what that is and do you like that or? It's 23:54 β 24:00 funny because Filipinos, they eat every part of, you know, the chicken and everything except 24:00 β 24:05 for the bone, but pretty much every part. But balut is basically an egg with a chicken in 24:05 β 24:09 it, a baby chicken, and they boil it and they eat it, and they consider it really good for 24:11 β 24:14 your brain to be really good for your brain basically, and you have to eat it in the evening. 24:15 β 24:19 So these guys will come around these vendors and they just hold on their back like these 24:19 β 24:25 boiled eggs of chicken and they scream balut, every time they go. And as a kid, I ate it. 24:26 β 24:29 I love that stuff. But now as an adult, it's so funny because I came to the States and I 24:29 β 24:33 was like, I can't eat that stuff. You tell people what it is, they're like, what? Yeah, people 24:33 β 24:38 just look at you. Yeah, I'm like, even I think that. And I'm like, but I used to eat this 24:38 β 24:42 stuff. Like, I remember eating chicken intestines. It was like grilled and it was my favorite. 24:42 β 24:48 I used to beg my dad for this stuff and now I'm like, I'm good, I'll pass. Like, I know 24:48 β 24:53 better now. You've become Americanized in that way now. Oh my gosh, well, how did that happen? 24:53 β 24:58 I don't know, I could eat it. I'm sure I could swallow it some way somehow. I don't know. 24:58 β 25:06 Yeah. Another food-related thing I've heard a lot about from the Philippines is Jollibee. 25:07 β 25:14 People say that it's better than fast food here in the US. Do you have an opinion on Jollibee? 25:14 β 25:18 What do you think of it? The thing is, we lived really remote. There was no Jollibee where 25:18 β 25:24 we lived. We used to go to these mission conferences twice a year, and we would drive to the city, 25:24 β 25:28 and it was a big deal because you'd finally have McDonald's and all this other stuff. But 25:28 β 25:32 they had everything there and Jollibee, we used to do American stuff because we just didn't 25:32 β 25:36 have it at all because we ate Filipino food. So I didn't really eat it a lot growing up, 25:36 β 25:42 honestly. It just wasn't available. Gotcha. And when it was, it wasn't the first choice. 25:42 β 25:48 Got you. It was with my parents and that's fine, I understand. Yeah, that makes sense. Cool, 25:49 β 25:54 cool. So that kind of like a bit of a negative question and then a positive question. So first, 25:55 β 26:02 is there anything that you kind of disliked about Filipino culture at all? Ooh, I don't 26:02 β 26:08 know if I can answer that. Or living in the Philippines in general. Yeah. That's a tricky 26:08 β 26:11 one. I'm on the fence about that question for a guess. No, no, that's fine. No, it's tricky 26:11 β 26:18 because honestly I loved it there. Like, of course there's things you don't like, but I 26:18 β 26:24 can't think of anything, you know, that I experienced really truly negatively. I think it was awkward 26:24 β 26:28 being like this white kid. Because where we live, there were missionaries, but usually 26:28 β 26:35 it was young guys. There wasn't families with kids. That was bizarre. Or there would be American 26:35 β 26:40 men who married Filipinas and would go and visit with their mixed kids, but there was never 26:41 β 26:45 blonde-haired, blue-eyed kids running around the village. That was really odd. Gotcha. Yeah. 26:47 β 26:52 And then on the positive side, what do you love the most about Filipino culture? They're very 26:52 β 26:59 people-oriented. And so I feel like, so I'm... by profession and RN too. And one thing that 26:59 β 27:04 I found through working with people who are in the dying process is at the end of the life 27:04 β 27:08 you realize what's important. It's really people. And I feel like Americans miss that. They worry 27:08 β 27:13 about their career and other things and like they become lonely. But the most beautiful 27:13 β 27:16 thing is seeing someone who's surrounded by their loved ones at the end of their life. 27:17 β 27:20 It's just the saddest when they're not. And I feel like Filipinos, they're just so people 27:20 β 27:24 oriented. There's always people around. They value that. They take time with that. And they 27:24 β 27:30 just... They just make it a priority. Makes them late to stuff, but you know, but they 27:30 β 27:34 got their friends. So, you know, they're living life fully. And I feel like that's something 27:34 β 27:41 that we're just blessed to do in life. Yeah. Yeah, that's really beautiful. Yeah, it is. 27:41 β 27:47 Do you find that people were actually more content and happy over there, even though their, you 27:47 β 27:52 know, surroundings are, you know, not very great, like, than like what you've seen over here? 27:52 β 27:57 Yeah, 100 percent. It's amazing how someone in a village, they all live and they're worth 27:57 β 28:02 people always that were mean to other people to their advantage. There's always people in 28:02 β 28:07 every culture and then you hear stories, but in general people just kind of work together 28:07 β 28:12 to help each other. If there, I remember if we ever had no electricity, which happened 28:12 β 28:15 quite a lot, everyone would go to like one house and have a candle. And we... us kids would 28:16 β 28:21 play with a candle. Like we were completely and utterly having the time of our life, putting 28:21 β 28:24 our finger over a candle. Like don't tell my mom I did that. No, just kidding. But you know, 28:24 β 28:28 we just, it was just crazy how like the things that we enjoy are just different. And like 28:29 β 28:34 you just stop and like literally smell the roses is what you do. And that's something that we 28:34 β 28:39 miss sometimes here when we live in this affluent. We have to plan everything. There's no like, 28:39 β 28:46 show up. Yeah. Work, hustle culture, anything. Yeah. Yeah, I've heard similar sentiments from 28:46 β 28:51 other people who have traveled to kind of locate their real countries like that. And it seems 28:51 β 28:54 something that's hold true because you think like, well, how would they be so happy with 28:55 β 29:01 having less? But sometimes, yeah, when you have more, you realize you don't need it. So another 29:01 β 29:08 thing that we like to do on the podcast is kind of dispel stereotypes or just talk about stereotypes. 29:08 β 29:14 And they're type MythBusters. Yeah. Oh, that's kind of fun. We're not tied to that name yet, 29:14 β 29:21 but we'll see. I like it. We'll see. But I just think it's always interesting to kind of talk 29:21 β 29:26 about stereotypes. I actually, I don't, like I tried to do some research, and I don't necessarily 29:26 β 29:32 have a lot of stereotypes about the Philippines, per se. But one, and this kind of goes back 29:32 β 29:36 to you mentioning that you were an RN, one in particular that I've seen in my. Oh, yeah. 29:46 β 29:55 It's true! in our own lives, because like Alyssa said, So that is a huge stereotype about Filipinos, 29:56 β 29:59 they move to the US and become nurses, 30:06 β 30:16 Can you give some rationale behind it if you might happen to know? You know, I don't know 30:16 β 30:26 if it really has to do with why I became. just, you know, if you get a little cut, if you wash 30:26 β 30:27 it and you put Neosporin on, 30:31 β 30:35 it becomes big and if they don't have money to pay for it, then the kids are just literally 30:35 β 30:40 hanging around crying because they have big open wounds with flies in it. This sounds really 30:40 β 30:44 gross, but like this is the reality that happens. I remember seeing that growing up. So I had 30:44 β 30:49 a passion that like, this stuff is easy to fix. This isn't hard. I mean, I was like in sixth 30:49 β 30:53 grade, I came to the States for a year and I like collected like a hundred dollars from 30:53 β 30:57 my church and I went back and bought bandages and I was like. I bandaged all the kids that 30:57 β 31:01 had little booboos. Because those booboos can turn into something if you don't take care 31:01 β 31:05 of it. So that was like my mantra. So that's how I started. I just want to be a nurse. I 31:05 β 31:10 read everything about Florence Nightingale, like Mother Teresa, like they were my people. 31:10 β 31:16 But with the Philippines, with the nursing thing, so the Philippines was actually, there's actually 31:16 β 31:24 a history behind that. So the Philippines was actually a US colony before World War II. They 31:24 β 31:29 purchased the US sorry, the Philippines from Spain. So they used to help countries get freed 31:29 β 31:33 from the colonists, but in this case, they actually went behind the back. It was not a beautiful 31:33 β 31:38 part of history, and they purchased it. But anyway, and they built an infrastructure, but 31:39 β 31:43 they have a deep-seated relationship with the Philippines, so they speak English really well. 31:43 β 31:47 Most Filipinos, I mean, they still have their accent and stuff, but they speak English better 31:47 β 31:52 than most other countries and stuff. And so there's been, I think, since then, they've 31:52 β 31:57 always recruited nurses. There's always been a need. And Filipino culture is very like service 31:57 β 32:02 oriented. They're really good in like, just, they're just very patient. They're very kind. 32:03 β 32:07 Their culture is just kind of accepting. They're there to help each other. That's how their 32:07 β 32:12 culture is. So they're just really good at it. Um, but yeah, some of the recruiting is not 32:12 β 32:17 so beautiful in reality. Some of the articles and you hear stories, but honestly, when you 32:17 β 32:23 live in a starving place, you're just happy to get a job. It's not that bad. Yeah, being 32:23 β 32:32 a nurse is an important job. And it tracks well with what you've been kind of like echoing 32:32 β 32:38 throughout the interviews So that aligns very well then with that type of career. 32:43 β 32:49 So no Mythbusters here today. That one's true. Come on, Brianna. I expected that one to be 32:49 β 32:56 true. Honestly, that was the main one that I had. I don't know if you have any more, Alyssa. 32:56 β 33:01 I'm trying to think. So like I said, my husband went over to the Philippines and he is about 33:01 β 33:08 6'2". And he said he was towering over people. What is the average height over anything? I 33:08 β 33:15 have no idea, but my dad is like 5'8", and he was definitely a giant over there. Okay. Yeah, 33:15 β 33:19 they're not very tall for the most part. There's always those token people, you know, that are 33:19 β 33:24 taller, probably mixed, like maybe when the Spanish were there, whatever, who knows what, 33:24 β 33:29 what. Yeah. I mean, can you think of any stereotypes or misunderstandings that maybe you've heard 33:29 β 33:36 over time about the Philippines that you wish people would understand? It's like not true. 33:36 β 33:37 Hmm. 33:48 β 33:52 That's a hard question. but I don't know. they have a pretty positive view of the Philippines. 33:53 β 33:57 I'm not sure what people know about the Philippines, actually. 34:02 β 34:06 Florida, so a lot of different cultures and things. So I don't know if I wasn't exposed 34:06 β 34:10 to a best friend who was Filipino, and I had lots of other friends in school who were Filipino, 34:10 β 34:16 so I kind of learned about the culture that way. But I don't know what America's overall 34:16 β 34:21 viewpoint of- Filipinos kind of, wherever they go, they just become. They're not the type 34:21 β 34:26 of culture that goes and it becomes a little village of their own. So I think that's why 34:26 β 34:31 when they come to the States, you don't really hear of a stereotype or- besides the nurses 34:31 β 34:39 thing, which is true. But they just kind of join in everywhere they go. They almost like 34:39 β 34:45 to copy, that sounds kind of negative, but they are their own people in that way. But it's 34:45 β 34:48 really beautiful how they do it. I'm not looking to like shake things up, I'm just trying to 34:48 β 34:52 like blend in. Just trying to join in. Yeah, I got you. Just trying to like have a little 34:52 β 34:58 fun here and there, get a job, feed themselves, like nothing major. Gotcha, gotcha. Hardworking, 34:58 β 35:06 yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's true. I feel like, yeah, they do just kind of assimilate 35:06 β 35:13 really well into any culture. Yeah. I mean, I think those are all our questions. Do you 35:13 β 35:17 have any more questions, Alyssa? I think I'm good. You're going to make fun of me about 35:17 β 35:24 saying that again? I did a good job this time. No, you did a very good job. Yeah, no, I think 35:24 β 35:29 that's about it. Thank you so much, Becca, for joining us. It was so amazing to hear your 35:29 β 35:35 experience, a very unique experience. And, you know, you did a great job of really like telling 35:35 β 35:42 us about all the, all the things you did growing up. Things that I never would imagine growing 35:42 β 35:47 up in a village in the Philippines. So yeah, thank you so much for coming. Thank you for 35:47 β 35:49 sharing your story. Really appreciate it. Thanks for having me, guys. 35:52 β 35:57 We'd like to thank Becca for taking the time to share her story. It was fascinating to hear 35:57 β 36:01 about her experience of growing up in the Philippines as a daughter of American missionary parents. 36:01 β 36:06 We would like to thank you listeners for tuning in for another interview. Your support means 36:06 β 36:10 the world to us. 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